Caravan Statisics Weight - Water & Power

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I have just put a file in the documents folder with the details that I have to hand at the moment that shows the length of the van, tare weight, number of solar panels, batteries and water tanks. This should help people who are ordering a Bushtracker with their decisions on what number of water tanks, Solar Panels and Batteries that they should put in their vans, and how it will affect the weight of their van over various lengths. These weights, while they look substancially more than your average Jayco, Coramal or Roadstar etc, when you take into account that they include the weight of all the batteries, solar panels and water tanks with heavy galvanised protection plates, 6 large off road wheels and tyres, as well as a fully fibreglassed shower recess in most Bushtrackers, this tare weight is very similar to these other brands, that don't include all these extras. If you are one of the ones that haven't sent me your details yet, could you please forward them to bmfox@tpg.com.au Brian.
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Reply By: Deleted User - Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 22:01

Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 22:01
Brian Are the weights shown actually owners' weighbridge measurements of the delivered vans? I ask because there are a few sets of identical weight. This is improbable in real life. Standard deviation in many areas (including the scales) would result in at least some spread. Collyn Rivers
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Reply By: Noosa Fox - Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 22:02

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The weights shown are what is on the Identification plate, except for mine because I estimated extra weight to allow for the extra battery and 2 extra water tanks that I fitted after having it registered. From experience, with the registration of our caravan, I know that Bushtracker take the caravan to a local weigh bridge, and get a certificate from them which is then taken up to the Queensland Transport Office at Nambour to have the caravan registered. The weigh bridge weight is then used as the TARE weight on registration papers and ID plate. Queensland Transport used check the measurements and all the other required registration details including all the lights etc, but must have found that Bushtrackers figures were always correct as I believe that they no longer require the van to be taken up to them for checking. Brian
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Reply By: Luvntravln - Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 22:04

Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 22:04
Brian, I have extracted the following data from your database:

LENGTH SOLAR BATS TARE WTR TNKS
Paul & Barb 18 4 4 2580 4
Mick & Kate 18 3 4 2580
Roger & Jackie 19 3 3 2500 4
Mark & Esther 20 4 4 2660 4
Graham & Jan 20 3 3 2680
Bob & Sue 20 4 3 2780 3
Brian & Margaret 21 3 4 2580 5
Greg & Helen 21 3 3 2700 What might be the explanation for the difference between your 21' and Pauls 18' when you are 3' longer assuming your extra water tank = Paul's extra solar panel? The Lukes in a 20' with one less battery and two less water tanks weigh 200kg more than your 21'! Is there any rhyme or reason to any of these weights? tgintl/jay
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Reply By: Luvntravln - Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 22:05

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Really , I didn't have too much to drink when I did the last post ! Corrugated road tgintl/jay
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Reply By: Deleted User - Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 22:06

Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 22:06
Suggest you take the following also into
account:

1. Steel or alloy rims
2. Generator installed before of after
weighing?
3. Furniture variations (timber is
heavy)
4. Weight of suspension (whether 3,3.5 or 4 ton
rating)

David
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Reply By: Noosa Fox - Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 22:07

Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 22:07
THESE WEIGHT FIGURES WERE ONLY MEANT AS A ROUGH GUIDE, AS THERE ARE TOO MANY OTHER VARIABLES THAT ALL AFFECT THE WEIGHT OF THE VAN. There are lots of variables in the vans, the older one only had 100mm chassis rails where the newer ones have 150mm. This would account for some weight differences. Some have standard width showers, some have wider ones, extra timber, extra fibreglass. Some have yatch berth and others have island bed, while others have 2 single beds that require more timber with the different construction. Some have jerry can holders, and extended A frames, while other have other extras fitted. Some have satellite dishes mounted, other have TV, DVD, etc as part of the caravan while my TV is portable so not included in Tare weight. It would also depend on things like replacing cupboards with a seat, or having bunk beds like Anthony. Some tall people have had their ceiling height raised, hence more weight. Really there are just too many variables for 2 vans of the same length to be the same weight, unless they were built exactly the same, and I know that there is at least one other the same as ours around somewhere. Brian
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Reply By: Deleted User - Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 22:08

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Thanks Brian, I thought they were factory data as the numbers have been (sensibly) rounded off. Collyn
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Reply By: Noosa Fox - Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 22:11

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It is interesting how some of these messages appear. Message 11 above is a copy of message 1, and I did NOT put it on, even though it shows that I did. MSN is doing some strange things lately. Brian
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