BT Vans

10 Para,
A water leak? and your question "is this an inherent problem with the BT?"
Probably just left an overhead hatch open in the rain... Of course it is not an inherent problem with BT !!! How could it be?

I must say though, with all of your misquoting, misinterpretation, and wild negative conjecture, I wonder are you working for someone else? What is your purpose?

"Gut the interior and build new and would BT do this?" Second hand often goes for more than new... This is ludicrous conjecture.. in other words, silly! Of course we would not do this..

10 Para, I am not sure I want to address any more of this kind of wild conjecture on your part.

The last thread was so full of negative conjecture, including some statement about a large Bushtracker towed by a Nissan with serious problems inside?? Who, what, when? Nissan utes are only legal to 2500kg, can not tow a large van, and if there was such a problem we would be the first to hear of it. I am beginning to question your motives here.... The questions are so far out and fictional...

Please evaluate what you state on this Public Forum, maybe do some real homework before starting such outlandish and negative sidetracks... Please..

Bushtracker

10 Para,
You would be better off buying new - then you know EXACTLY what you are going to get. Anything bought second hand - be it a woman, car, BT or whatever is a risk as you have no idea what you are really getting or where it has been or how it has treated. By way of example - Rolls Royce make great quality car yet I know a group of youths up here that would absolutely wreck it in a couple of hours - without even trying hard.

Having said than a secand hand BT - assuming its been looked after - is probably as good and maybe a lot better than anything else on the market.

If you want to get a second hand BT van and there are some good ones out there - the last thing I would do is 'gut it' and rebuilt it. It is unlikely that you would have the factory skills, knowledge or tooling and Bti are bloody busy building new ones for their large forward orders.

If buying secondhand suggest you employ a good engineer, experienced in the industry, to review any intended purchase. That way you get some unbiased information.

The other option is to buy something along the lines of a well known brand of on road vans and drag it off into the bush. I recently came across just such a van being towed by a very well known author of caravaning and camping quide books. When asked how his 'pop-top' and 'pop-ends' little van survived he replied with a grin "you need to be "expert level" with the screw gun"

Grumblebum (but happy BT owner)

10 Para, my hubby and I are permanently living in our van and have been for the past 11 months. We are currently on Kangaroo Island and have been inundated with some fairly wild storms over the past few weeks. Only the other night, I hugged my husband and said I was so glad we had decided on having a Bushtracker built. We have had no problems with water ingress. We are very glad we had the Webasto heater installed and ducted into the ensuite so we can use that as a drying room. At night, despite the wild winds and rain (someone tell me again why we are here and not up in sunny Queensland????) we have not suffered any problems and of course the weight of our 20 footer has held the van very steady.

I would agree that there are always risks on buying second hand, but it is like anything - do your own research, then if you take the risk you only have yourself to blame.

Yes, the site is here to help people get an idea of what Bushtrackers are all about, but in the end, there are a lot of people out there who own Bushtrackers who are not members and we have not quality control checks over them, or what they do with their vans.

Angie
Acting President

10 Para

I have no understanding of why you have quoted me in your reply below!!!

The fact that I had some microwave and fridge problems in no way negates the fact that the BT - kilo for kilo - is the best off-road caravan available for purchase in Australia today. I limit this to Australia because I cannot comment on availability in other countries.

Regarding leaks, mate - I lived on a boat for 15 years - and anything that is constructed can leak! Having said that we in the past year have been through some significant storms and with days of downpours. We had one leak in the rear corner by the tail light and when we took the van back to BTi it was promptly corrected.

There has never been a water leak from the roof or from any of the windows which are the most obvious areas for water ingress.

I too suggest that if you are going to purchase a BT you purchase a new BT so that you will be completely satisfied that you are not purchasing someone else's problems.

Luvntravln

Hey 10 Para, and any other potential BT buyers,

If you have decided you want to buy an Off-Road van, apply the KISS principle. (Keep It Simple, Stupid).

1. If you are going to buy a new van - Go to the Factory, see how the vans are built, talk to the people who build them, and understand completely what you are about to spend money on.

2. If you are going to buy a second hand van, Go to the Factory, see how the vans are built, talk to the people who build them, and understand completely what you are about to spend money on.

3. If you have done this and have then decided that a second hand van you have been looking at is the way you wish to go - talk to the people at the factory about possible modifications to suit yourself. They will give you the best advice and from that you should be able to assess whether you are competent enough to do the modifications yourself, or whether it would be best for the factory to carry out the modifications and repair any damaged that may have resulted in a leak or whatever.

More postings like the preceeding postings you have made are not going to help you get THE BEST possible buy in an off-road caravan. There are hundreds of BT owners on this site who are passionate about their vans and they know that if there is a leak in the roof above a table, then a large rock or tree branch has fallen through the roof. They will then take their van back to the factory for a professional repair job.

Good Luck and I hope to meet you and your BT on the road one day!

Cheers.............Rob

10 Para, Congratulations!

The great success of this Company over many years is based on two simple things: First of all the quality of the Product. Anyone that knows enough to tell what they are looking at, can see that we have the Finest and Strongest Caravan in Australia with the Best Engineering, the Nicest Interior Finishes, and the Best Equipment on offer anywhere; and we are inexpensive in comparison to others with what we offer.. We have never been able to keep up with Demand, and have never caught up with Production. There is always a Backlog of Orders…

The second reason for our success is our development of long term relationships of support and friendship for our Clients with excellence in service and long term care. We coach our Clients to get the best results for them from the start. And this care and aftermarket service extends to many areas, for instance like the 100’s of hours spent on the BOG for with Tips and continued support and care for our Bushtracker Owners long term well being. This is returned by our Customers being the ones that sell our vans for us, and in fact in the last couple of years alone we have had 34 Owners come back for a second van from us. In looking after our Customers best interests, it becomes our best interests to do so…

However, over the years we have discovered that about 1 in 100 people seem to thrive on suggesting negativity and feeding into it; and if they cannot find anything negative they will invent it. We have found that we cannot make these 1 in 100 people happy no matter what we do.. Over the years we have learned that it is unproductive to try, when there are so many others that appreciate our efforts. We would like to Thank You for exposing your Nature over the last many encounters, as being that 1 in 100 that we do not think we could make happy no matter what… You may now just channel your interests to supporting the second hand market only.

Your latest comments have earned you an Honour, and I quote you: "Whilst at the factory i asked a question re the Shocks at the answer i got was i don'f know, ask another about the Air Suspension and was told i have not towed one, another about dust answer you will alwsy get dust in one would have thought " we do everything to keep the dust out except to break the law in regard to venting" leaving the door aside>
all in all a great looking van we would love to be buying one in a down market where BT had to do some selling instead of why don't they just put up the price so that they can employ people to explain things properly to new customers, to much like Telsta used to be. "

MORE INVENTED NEGATIVITY ON YOUR PART....I will be polite and not tell you what I really think of you. No one here at Bushtracker would state things like this. You could not have misunderstood things this badly this many times... You are stating disruptive fiction... CONGRATULATIONS, You are the first person on the BOG site we are officially giving the flick to..! You have wrongly attacked this Company with fiction, to many times. Now you cannot have a new Bushtracker.

You will buy a second hand one or none at all. Good bye, you have done yourself with us... And we do not want to know you anymore.

Thank You for showing us your true nature early on so we don't have to deal with you...

Management and Staff at Bushtracker

10 Para.
Thank god you have finally dropped off the fence. Now we can top it with razor wire just to keep you on the other side.You have been a real PITA and glad to see the back end of you on here.
Good Riddance To You.
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Well Done Steve.

Some people you can lead to water and enlightenment and they are grateful. Alas there is a small minority that should have be drownerd at birth.

10 Para's drivel gets the flick from me.

Have a good day

Grumblebum

10 Para.
Maybe your name should be CHOOK...you pick on everything and know nothing.You do not know what i have done in the 62 years of my life.minor adjustments were for myself....as far as helping other people on the track you have no idea where and what i have driven through in this wonderful country of ours and the many people that i have helped....but if i ever see you on the track be prepared to be left there .I really think that you are in love with your own voice and just want to hear yourself talk. This will be my last response to you as you are not worth the time.
I bid you farewell
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