Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 19:42
Well Neil I have the same long range tanks, 100 Series, here is the answer with scientific background and experience......
The short answer to your question of airbags just added to the standard coils? NO... I am sorry but that is a half measure, coils inadequate, shocks inadequate, air compressing and still half wallow around... In the wrong conditions of a panic move at 100 km per hour, loss of control as you wallow around, and the consequences of a half measure could be disastrous... If it was economic in nature, better than nothing, but not good enough in my estimate...
Now keep in mind I have seen the results of hundreds of Toyota suspension upgrades, owned and upgrade 5 of my own since the 1980's... So put some weight on my answer:
Now ARB used to have a progressive coil that was lighter when empty and rode up on the heavier part of the coil when loaded... They have changed the name of the coils for the 100 Series and now have 400 and 600 kg as the Medium and Heavy Progressive Coils... Make sure it is Progressive if you go the 600 kg, make sure it rides on the lighter part of the coil when empty; if not it will be too hard of riding when the van is not hooked up. Ask them for their advise with regards to the loading described above. You really want the Toyota to handle firmly like a sports car, more than wallow around with a weak suspension... You also want the Nitrocharger Shocks... They are the best and have proven themselves over the years...
The expensive LTR or what ever it is called with the remote canister? It is really for Rally Vehicles at high speed in my experience, the Nitrochargers are half the money and are the go….
Now, in case you have a 100 Series like mine, you can always take the middle ground and get the "Medium" 400 kg Progressive coils, and add the poly-air bags to stiffen it up more... I did this to mine because my Wife has a bone spur in her neck, and I was afraid the "Heavy Progressive" (if that is the 600 kg increase spring) might be too much when it was not fully loaded and running around town... As the 100 Series is really her personal “car”…
Now, for general information to other Boggers, if you are getting a larger van, 20' and over, and you are traveling full time, not just part time travel, or tend to want a lot of toys on board, then get the Heavy Progressive. If you are loading your Landcruiser up, fridge, tools, long range tanks, and such, maybe a boat on top or spare tyre holder, and more, then get the Heavy Progressive that I am guessing the 600 kg increased spring is... If not then do the middle ground like I did. If you are loading your van up, boat motor on the a-frame, jerry can holders, larger van with everything on board, more than four water tanks and big on gear, and you are going to live it in and travel extensively, then get the larger springs for the better control... If you are in the middle ground, not too loaded, more like an 18', part time travel, not too much equipment on the van and Toyota, the middle range Medium Progressive 400kg will do.. And if you need more you can add the Poly-air bags in side the coils.. I keep mine running at about 5-10 lbs just to keep the bags in the coils running around town.. Big towing, you might have to put in 25-35 to get it firm and level depending on how much you load it up, and this would make it approximately equivalent to the 600kg coil upgrade…
Keep in mind the Ranger does this full time with the 1000... The accuracy of my answers on science of things like this will prove to be very high, not just a personal opinion of limited experience.. OK?
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