F250 Tyre alternatives

Submitted: Friday, Jun 30, 2006 at 22:08
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G'day all,
I just joined this site as there seems to be lots of good and sensible info around. First my apologies if this has been covered in detail before but I could not find anything in my searches.

I'm in the process of preparing my 05 F250 to go bush, and finding that tyres is a tricky thing due to the 123 load rating required.
I find the OE tyres to be worse than useless both on and off road.
I am looking for good off road performance as well as reasonable noise level on road. In other vehicles I have used eveything from Michelin LTX (great tyre) BFG AT KO (awfull although problems supposed to be fixed now) BFG MT, and Interco Superswampers.

So far my choice seems to be Cooper ST or the new ST-C in the 265/75/16

I'd be interested to know what has been tried, keeping in mind the legalities and insurance issues.

Any suggestions will be much appreciated.

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Reply By: Bushtracker - Friday, Jun 30, 2006 at 22:44

Friday, Jun 30, 2006 at 22:44
Hello, Gone Troppo,

There was quite a Thread on this one, but from memory it was on the Owners Forum.. From my research, there are two different tags on the doors of the Effies. One has the 123 Load Rating, and yes the Coopers are a common choice... The other door tag like mine has on it does not specify the 123 load rating, only the 265/75 R-16E. Now the "E" rating is not recognized in Australia widely, so everyone goes with the tyre that exceeds the rear axle load rating. In my case, my rear axle load rating is something like 2850 from memory, and I am running 285/75 R-16 BFG Muddies with a 1500kg so 3000 kg. From the American Standard they are not E rated, but that is not recognized, so several authorities have put me onto the "exceed the rear axle loading" method...

Now the 123 Load Rating is recognized and that is 1550 kg. There are only a handful of tyres that comply, Cooper 10 ply in the ST or STT (from memory, go see a Cooper Dealer) is one to look at. From memory this is one that is an AT and one a new release is a MT. Another 10 ply is the Mickey Thompsons. But there are only a few from memory that comply. I went with mine due to missing the 123 designation, and I cannot tell you why the two different door tags only that there are. If you have the 123, then you have to have the 1550 kg rating as a minimum. I would go look at the Coopers, probably the most common aftermarket tyre coming in here out of the 90 or Fords towing Bushtrackers. Or the Mickey Thompsons, as they are about the second most common I have noticed...

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Follow Up By: GoneTroppo - Monday, Jul 03, 2006 at 17:26

Monday, Jul 03, 2006 at 17:26
Thanks LR
Sounds a bit like the rules aren't as clear as we thought.
Mine does only show 123 on the placard so that's that.

I'd be really interested to hear what people's experiences have been with Cooper ST and ST-C's.

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Follow Up By: Bushtracker - Monday, Jul 03, 2006 at 17:53

Monday, Jul 03, 2006 at 17:53
Ford Australia gave me some answer about some running gear/ Cab variation that made the difference, but from the answer I am guessing they just had two batches of door stickers. By the way the 123 designation and the "E" designation means the same load rating in the U.S. The "E" is just not recognised widely here so we with the 265/75 R-16E have a lucky break and have a variety of tyres that "exceed the alxe rating"....

As to Coopers, the STT Muddie looks good as well, with ribs down the sides the ST type Cooper looks like the Mickey Thompson famous Mexican racing stye that made them popular with the "Baja" races in the desert. I am not sure I have seen any Fords well traveled enough to have gone through the original tyres, and then a set of Coopers, so you may not get a concise answer on how well the Coopers are running on the higher loads of the Ford. We will have to wait and see. The older Coopers did not fair as well as the BFG from reports, but this new Breed of Coopers have more in the sidewall and such.

On mostly highway use with Landcruisers, I have seen the old Coopers 80,000 km so called pro-rated warranty acheived. While not a Cooper Fan in the past, we will have to see how this new ST, STT fair, but I think it may be "too early to tell". From all I see and hear, it would be my best guess, and my personal gamble, to go with the Cooper if I needed the 10 ply 123 load rating 1550 kg tyres. In saying that I have not priced the Mickey Thompsons, but I think the best value for money would be the Coopers as MTs have always been exxy; check them out...

Too early for scientific answers I think, just a guess, so for price and availability, I think I might go the ST - STT. I am giving this, because I have not seen any Fords running long enough with the ST-series, and you may not get an answer on the BOG... LR
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