Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 at 10:33
After this post I took the vehicle to Wescott Towbars the people who fitted the 4500kg receiver and supplied the 1000kg WDH. Now thet were excellent and after explaining what was happening they could not agree more with the simple fix of this problem by making the receiver part thicker.
Upon closer examination we came to the same conclusion that the only side the holde was getting worn and becoming bigger was the side that the curved bit of the pin was was touching, not the straight part where the "R" clip was going through that is still perfectly round. Conculsion is the the curved bit of the pin if you look at it will be worn on the under side of the curve as to where it is being forced up against the square receiver going over corrigations.
There are three solutions as I see it.
1. Weld extra 5mm plates on each side so that there is more for the pin to bite but it will still wear oblong but with the thicker metal would not be much of a problem but this voids warranty.
2. If the hitch part was made of solid metal like other Hayman Reece hitch's thne this would solve the problem but apparently the 4500kg receiver and 1000kg WDH is the only one that is forged cast and is in the shape of an "I" as this comes from the USA and this shape gives the pin less to bite into.
3. Put a straight 8.8 High Tensile 5" bolt through with lock nuts on it and there will not be a problem with the curved bit of the pin like on the original wearing the hole out.
MY towbar guy agreed and we got onto the phone to "Di" who handles this warranty stuff for Hayman Reece. Explained the situation and the solutions but they did not want to know about it saying if you weld anthing to the towbar it voids warranty. Ok!
Was then asked will they replace my towbay when it becomes so worn as to become unsafe and the answer was NO! as it is being used for something it is not designed for, eg under their so called conditions that hitch is to be used with a 70mm ball and not a 50mm ball, funny that I was supplied with a 50mm ball when fitted. All the other types of hitches like the AT35 and VC coupling and ring are not there specified conditions, talk about bull bleep as this would not make any difference in the reciver wearing, so basically any way you went there is no warranty.
They did say however that I could use there fancy straight locking pin which funny enough is just a straight pin which would solve the problem like we said, and by the way they do not make a straight simple pin with two "R" clips.
Now funny enough the extra long lockable pin is only rated at 3500kg, so then the insurance company will have a ball with that.
Just today I have been to the all the bolt places and I can get a 8.8 High Tensile bolt that will be a lot stronger that the pin that Hayman Reece supply but righly so was told that insurance companies will write you off if they pick that in an accident.
There is another type of pin a Clevis Pin that is used in tractors which is the same as the pin supplied, basically a shear pin that just has a bolt head on it with an "R" clip that would do the job perfectly but I have to chase that one down and locate one.
I found a towbar guy that actually makes the pin the same as the Hayman Reece pins but with a slightly less of a bend but he can also make me one that is just straight with a hole in each end and a "R" clip through each end for about $15 and I think the problem would be solved.
Now we checked on the quality of these pins as to the grade of metal used and and it was only mild steel so in actual fact the high tensile bolt would be a lot stronger.
I went to the Hayman Reece agent here in the west and as usual they are only the agents and he gave me the email address of Hayman Reece to take the matter further, so now this may be the next step or I might just get the high tensile bolt or a straight pin made up.
It is the usual thing they want to sell the product but don't want to know you after.
To all of you that are having this trouble let me know and I will add the numbers to the email I will send Hayman Reece and see what their response is as all I was suggesting was to save them further problems down the road and a solution to the problem like we all have been doing
Cheers
Stewart
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Follow Up By: Bobrovin - Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 03:54
Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 03:54
Stewart
If the wear is only from the curved part of the pin why not just put a 5mm or so thick, snug fitting washer on the pin before you insert it. It will then act like a straight pin
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