Digital TV

Submitted: Tuesday, Jul 27, 2010 at 03:45
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OK all you satellite tv and digital tv watchers out there...I have a question..
I am in the process of up grading the tv in the van to an HD one with Sound In Motion. So far there has been no mention of digital aerials...what I would like to know is , will I have to upgrade the Wineguard aerial to digital as well? Also, I use satellite tv when we are in one place for a while, so is there such a thing as an HD decoder which I will need in order to watch HD tv through the satellite or am I thinking wrong.
Any thoughts?
Cheers, Jan O
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Reply By: The Hob - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2010 at 04:15

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2010 at 04:15
We have a 19inch Digital TV from SIM and it works fine on the Winegard aerial.

We have satellite too but it is automatically digital from the satellite so the decoder is digital but unscrambles the signal for you. I don't think the Satellite is high definition but it works well for us.

Ours satellite system is a Vansat one installed by SIM.

Alan



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Reply By: Trackor 2 - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2010 at 18:35

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2010 at 18:35
Have a look at www.satplus.com.au.

Be aware that FTA satellite is changing to the VAST system. Full details are not released as yet. Current equipment will not work with VAST.

Also Wineguard is horizontal signal only, unless the aerial is modified. Digital is broadcast in vertical or horizontal, depending on location. A digital aerial from some one like Dick Smith is around $70.

Peter
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Follow Up By: Rockgoc - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2010 at 22:52

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2010 at 22:52
Thanks for all that info Peter. It has really got me confused now though because Brian from Sound In Motion has told me that the Winegard antenae AND the sat tv decoder are already digital compatible. So who is right? He never mentioned the VAST thing....what does it all mean? Once it is up and running, will we all have to buy new decoders and cards to watch FTA tv?
Back to you.....
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Follow Up By: Trackor 2 - Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 02:50

Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 02:50
My understanding is that the Winegard is compatible with the horizontal digital broadcast, but not the vertical broadcast. Most places broadcast in horizontal, but some are vertical, e.g. Bundaberg is vertical. People with Wineguards in Bundy are having problems with the digital signal.

Go to www.satplus.com.au website & click on latest satellite news for FAQ's on VAST and other information. The new VAST (Viewer Access Satellite Television) system will offer viewers the same channels as terrestrial digital TV. See page 34 of "The Australian" of 27 July 2010 in the IT section. Sat Plus advise that existing FTA satellite equipment will not be compatible with VAST.

The new Austar (Mystar) & Foxtel satellite services now include the FTA terrestrial digital channels. A dual LNB dish is required to run this service.

Hope this helps.
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Reply By: Rockgoc - Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 06:33

Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 06:33
Hmmmmm, thanks Trackor2 I think I will wait and see what arrives in the post (the new tv) and let Brian from S.I.M. sort it out for me as it all is too confusing for me. I could not get page 27 of the Australian like you suggested, only the headlines, but I did have a good look at all the websites for VAST. It'll all make sense in the morning as they say!
Cheers and thanks again for the replies from all concerned. Cheers, Jan O
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Reply By: Brian & Anne - Tuesday, Oct 05, 2010 at 07:54

Tuesday, Oct 05, 2010 at 07:54
Probably a bit late in replying, but I only just joined up.
From a technical perspective. At a given signal level, it can be shown that anologue TV range is greater than digital. It follows that, to achieve the same range, i.e. watch digital TV, that the antenna must have greater gain.
That's it pretty much in a nutshell. Sorry can't advise re how much extra gain.
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Reply By: Flipp'n Lorry - Wednesday, Oct 06, 2010 at 03:16

Wednesday, Oct 06, 2010 at 03:16
There is a clip-on extension available for the Winegard which is desgned to further improve digital reception (maybe it addresses the vertical/horizontal broadcast issue referred to above). Sorry I can't find a url with further details.

I have seen many vans fitted this add-on.
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Reply By: Rockgoc - Wednesday, Oct 06, 2010 at 06:21

Wednesday, Oct 06, 2010 at 06:21
Well, so far we have been able to receive hd and digital signals with no problems at all....apart from the very loud hummmmm emminating from the speakers whenever we watch tv through the satellite system using the annalogue dvd player/recorder as an antenna. To watch tv using the tv itself as an antenna is perfect, except we can't watch the satellite channels (all free to air ones) because we have to go through the dvd player in order to watch. So, what I want to know is...how do you eliminate the hum? All the info on ground loops is very interesting, but it doesn't tell us the simple stuff...being that we are very simple and can't work it out for ourselves! SIM sent us a small cable with two ends going into one but this is as useless as an ashtray on a motorbike because it doesn't fix anything.....*sigh* ......'Nother problem recording digital tv through the dvd player...do we have to buy a digital dvd player now in order to watch and record digital tv? Methinks so.
Back to the IT experts...anyone anyone ?????? :-)
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Reply By: gottabjoaken - Wednesday, Oct 13, 2010 at 06:34

Wednesday, Oct 13, 2010 at 06:34
I find that if there are digital transmissions, the Wingard aerial picks them up with no problem.

It doesn't even seem to need to be pointed in the correct direction. The digital comes in easily.

Ken
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