McHITCH has a hitch on my 200 Series
Submitted: Friday, Nov 26, 2010 at 02:22
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Willie
If you have a 200 Series Toyota, you should check the clearance between the opened tailgate and the top of the McHITCH.
On mine, the Top of the McHITCH would put a dent in the tailgate if I dropped it.
I am going to have to work out some kind of padded cover for the top of the hitch, or get rid of it.
There's another problem I did anticipate of when I bought it - My 200 has had a 2.5" suspension lift and air bags on the back. It is pretty high at the rear and to get it on/off, the McHITCH has to be a fair bit higher than the slide in AT-35 ever had to be. My current jockey wheel will not lift it high enough and I had to put two Boral cobblestones under it to get the height required.
Can you buy longer jockey wheels or will I have to travel around with two cobblestones in my kit ?
I thought it would be a simple swap over - bummer.
Reply By: The Hob - Friday, Nov 26, 2010 at 03:03
Friday, Nov 26, 2010 at 03:03
Willie
Contemplating doing the swap over. Did you have to go to longer drop leg (200mm) to keep drwabar horizontal? I have a 150mm drop now with the AT35.
The AT35 clears the tailgate and I thought the DO35 would be lower?????
You can get longer jockey wheels. (Probar at Caboolture)
I was also contemplating that with a DO35 I would go for a simple jackstand rather than the jockey wheel as I will be able to just back under the hitch and drop it on.
Alan
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Follow Up By: Bobrovin - Friday, Nov 26, 2010 at 04:53
Friday, Nov 26, 2010 at 04:53
Hi Willy
Can't you just move the jockey wheel lower in the clamp?
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Follow Up By: Willie - Sunday, Nov 28, 2010 at 04:24
Sunday, Nov 28, 2010 at 04:24
Alan,
You cannot just"back under it" either. It does not sit up in a position where you can back under it - it just flops down in a heap - another problem I never considered.
Willie.
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Reply By: Willie - Friday, Nov 26, 2010 at 19:47
Friday, Nov 26, 2010 at 19:47
Allan,
"The AT35 clears the tailgate and I thought the DO35 would be lower????? " WRONG
If I drop the height of the hitch, the van would be nose down. I had the air bags put in because it was nose down when I used the same set-up as I had on the old 100 Series.
What are the advantages of a jack stand over a jockey wheel ?
Thanks,
Willie.
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Follow Up By: Noosa Fox - Saturday, Nov 27, 2010 at 07:31
Saturday, Nov 27, 2010 at 07:31
Willie,
The Trail Mate jack can easily be fitted into a jockey wheel holder in a similar position to the Jack that Motherhen has shown and does the same job.
They are probably easier to use than the jack that Motherhen has because it is Haudraulic so there is very little effort to raise it and even less when lowering.
I have one fitted and Niknoff also has one fitted.
Brian
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Follow Up By: Willie - Sunday, Nov 28, 2010 at 04:32
Sunday, Nov 28, 2010 at 04:32
Thanks Brian.
Do you leave it on like the standard old fold up jockey wheel or do you take it off the drawer bar ? Gone Bush takes his off, but I am not sure if he has to or not.
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Follow Up By: Noosa Fox - Sunday, Nov 28, 2010 at 06:17
Sunday, Nov 28, 2010 at 06:17
I take mine off and store in the side locker.
I bought a piece of 50 x 50 Gal angle from the hardware and bolted it to the rear of the hitch mounting plate on the A Frame. Then I bolted a jockey wheel bracket to the other side so now I can use the Trail Mate in the centre of the A frame and it feels as though it gives more support and keeps the van steadier than using a side mounted jockey wheel.
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Follow Up By: Gone Bush - Sunday, Nov 28, 2010 at 08:56
Sunday, Nov 28, 2010 at 08:56
Hullo Willie,
I have heard stories of the Trail-a-Mate, when left in place, allowing the leg to lower very slowly and, of course, that's a problem if your driving.
I don't know the age of the device concerned or any other circumstances, but that's why I put mine away. Keeps it out of the dust too.
cheers
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Reply By: The Hob - Friday, Nov 26, 2010 at 22:20
Friday, Nov 26, 2010 at 22:20
Willie
I thought if the DO35 is bolted in the same place as the AT35 there would be negligible change to height.
I am hoping that alignment is not as critical with a DO35 so i wont have to move van with handle to hitch up. Just back up under it and drop onto pin.
The jack stand is lighter (and a cheaper replacement) and has no jockey wheel to perish. Mine has cracks and splits and is only 2 years old. Trusting I can reverse under the hitch - have camera in tailgate.
The stand may also make the van a little more stable as it will be sitting on a solid base rather than a piece of rubber. (no big issue just another plus)
Alan
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Reply By: Motherhen & Rooster - Saturday, Nov 27, 2010 at 01:02
Saturday, Nov 27, 2010 at 01:02
Hi Willie
I can't help about 200 series or McHitch, but can show you our fixed jack in place of a jockey wheel. Ours had been added by the previous owner and is a very heavy duty jack. The caravan is certainly more stable than when using a jockey wheel. It will even lift the back of the F250.
Picture not very clear, but this shows our jack - covered in cobwebs :(
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Follow Up By: The Hob - Saturday, Nov 27, 2010 at 02:55
Saturday, Nov 27, 2010 at 02:55
Motherhen
How do you travel with your jack? Does it swivel, lift upwards or is it removed?
Alan
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Follow Up By: Motherhen & Rooster - Saturday, Nov 27, 2010 at 03:21
Saturday, Nov 27, 2010 at 03:21
Hi Alan
It lifts (after winding up to its shortest). The T-shaped handle on the right side in the picture pulls out and is spring mounted to slot into one of a series of holes to stay either in the up position for travel, or to set to the desired position for jacking. Oh dear, so many cobwebs.
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Lifting and locking pin
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Jack in travel position
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Follow Up By: The Hob - Saturday, Nov 27, 2010 at 03:47
Saturday, Nov 27, 2010 at 03:47
Thanks Motherhen
Looks good
Alan
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Follow Up By: Motherhen & Rooster - Saturday, Nov 27, 2010 at 03:55
Saturday, Nov 27, 2010 at 03:55
It works well Alan - unless someone tries to drive away with it in place :O
It has needed a bit of maintenance over the years from war wounds
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Reply By: Gone Bush - Sunday, Nov 28, 2010 at 02:09
Sunday, Nov 28, 2010 at 02:09
I found that the bolt hole (the bolt that holds the jocky wheel in the stowed position) was rounding out with travel.
So I took it off and put two brackets on the left chassis rail (no wiring in that one) and installed a Trail-a-Mate.
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When travelling I take it off completely and stow it in my Long Items storage box in the boot.
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Works well.
I'm sure this whole exercise has had a positive effect on my hitch weight. The BT jockey wheel is really heavy and the Trail-a-Mate sits further back when stowed thus reducing its weight on the hitch.
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Follow Up By: Gone Bush - Sunday, Nov 28, 2010 at 02:12
Sunday, Nov 28, 2010 at 02:12
By the way, you'll notice I cut the "handles" in half on the brackets and welded wheel nuts on.
I use a socket spanner on them now. Much easier and they don't interfere with each other when you put 2 so close together.
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Follow Up By: Noosa Fox - Sunday, Nov 28, 2010 at 19:01
Sunday, Nov 28, 2010 at 19:01
Stephen,
Your cargo hatch looks too neat and tidy for Gone Bush.
With the bracket right up near the front of the A Frame you should also find that it supports the van better than where the jockey wheel is further back on the A Frame.
Your follow up post above about the Trail-A-Mate lowering in transit is probably more of an operator error, in that they failed to tighten up the relief valve properly after lifting the jacking leg up. I think if the leg was going to lower in transit, then it would move while it is in the jacking position because it has a lot more pressure on it.
The jack used by Motherhen looks a lot stronger but I didn't want to have the leg fixed up above the A Frame all the time so I chose the Trail-A-Mate that could be easily removed and stored in the cargo locker.
Brian
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Follow Up By: Keith & Joan - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 15:37
Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 15:37
I don't know how this thread got to be about jockey wheels and jack stands from a question about hitches?
The question was about the McHITCH, which is nothing like the DO35.
The McHITCH is like Spaghetti when you want to hitch up to your vehicle, and the DO 35 is a rigid type hitch that you can back up under and drop it on.
That's all Folks !!
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Reply By: Deleted User - Thursday, Dec 16, 2010 at 18:21
Thursday, Dec 16, 2010 at 18:21
Hi everybody,
Joe McGinnes from McHitch here.
We have fitted quite a few McHitch 6 tonners to Bushtrackers this year. This is because many of these vans are over the legal load limit of the existing coupling when they are loaded and ready to go.
Most of the fitments are in the original position, although we have fitted some on top of the drawbar mounting plate at the request of the owners.
The owners of these Bushtrackers are delighted with the perfomance of the McHitch.
If Willie contacts me then I will be able to suggest so minor changes to clear the tailgate clearance problem by mounting the coupling lower in the drawbar enclosure and the adjusting the height on his WDH setup. I would be able to do this for Willie free of charge if he can drop in to our factory.
There is also the reported problem of having to raise the van the extra distance over the AT35. The Do35 requires an extra lift and the McHitch pin is only about 20mm higher than the Do35 pin. A good jack, preferably a heavy duty wind up is the solution.
We have had no reports of the front body flopping down or acting like spaghetti from any of our customers. This is after well over 30,000 klms of heavy use in the outback.The hitch has adjustable screwed plugs to maintain the front body in the horizontal position for hitching.
If any of you who have a MCHITCH with this problem , please ring me on 0402 863 867 and I will arrange to have it rectified free of charge.
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Reply By: Willie - Friday, Jan 14, 2011 at 01:06
Friday, Jan 14, 2011 at 01:06
Joe from McHitch contacted me and all problems are now solved. I had a McHitch coupled to an AT35 and this caused it to flop down . I upgraded to a complete 3.5 tonne McHitch system which sits up nicely and Joe tells me it will not hit the taigate because the complete McHitch set-up sits lower( although I have not checked as yet).
Cheers all,
Willie.
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