Fridge Volt Regulator Wiring

Submitted: Thursday, Dec 05, 2013 at 05:31
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Hi All,

have been searching, without luck, for an earlier post regarding a permanent 12v wiring set-up which (as I understand) actually bypasses the small voltage regulator. Would welcome any assistance in finding it.

I presently have the fridge out of the recess giving it a total clean of all the recently accumulated dust collected travelling to Alice and "everywhere" on the dirt roads, so it would be a nice time to attend to this wiring.

Thanks in advance.

Trakka (Peter G)
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Reply By: Les N Sally - Thursday, Dec 05, 2013 at 14:52

Thursday, Dec 05, 2013 at 14:52
Peter try http://www.bushtrackerownersgroup.asn.au/Forum/View.asp?ForumQID=9154&Page=%2FForum%2FDefault.asp%3FDisplaySet%3DActive%26PN%3D1 or fridge globe thread.
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Follow Up By: Trakka - Friday, Dec 06, 2013 at 05:41

Friday, Dec 06, 2013 at 05:41
Thanks Les,
appreciate your lead but not what I am looking for.

I still can't work out how to use the search function properly, usually end up with a list of pages at the bottom of the screen and start looking through them.

Thanks again and happy travels.

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Reply By: Swanwood - Thursday, Dec 05, 2013 at 19:52

Thursday, Dec 05, 2013 at 19:52
There are a number of posts on the subject a few are 5555, 2334 and 2744 all on the Owners Forum must use the "Both" option when you search.
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Follow Up By: Trakka - Friday, Dec 06, 2013 at 05:51

Friday, Dec 06, 2013 at 05:51
Thanks Ian & Cheryl,

followed up your leads but unfortunately not what I am looking for. I'm still trying to sort out the search function properly - seems like I'm in a seniors paddock!

Thanks again and happy travelling.

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Peter G
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Follow Up By: Willie - Friday, Dec 06, 2013 at 07:15

Friday, Dec 06, 2013 at 07:15
Your not the only one Peter. I can never make it work. I find it bloody useless.

I guess somewhere on the site there is instructions to make it work, but I wonder why would "they" have made it so complicated.

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Follow Up By: Turist - Saturday, Dec 07, 2013 at 18:42

Saturday, Dec 07, 2013 at 18:42
Try using the "Site Search" facility located at the top of the page.
The "Both" button enables a search on both the active posts and the archived posts but only within the forum that you have open.
The "Site Search" will search the entire site for the word you have put in.
It is the little grey panel above the Sponsors and Members tabs.

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Reply By: Trakka - Friday, Dec 06, 2013 at 07:30

Friday, Dec 06, 2013 at 07:30
Hi Willie,

maybe when the new website gets finalised then the search function will be set up for people like us who seem to have a hard task searching for various topics.

If any committee person reads this post I would like to suggest that a "How to use the search function" be added to the Tips section, perhaps even include a couple of pics to assist the explanation.

Another explanation on how to automatically include an Avatar would be very helpful, I know many members know how to do it but I still don't! Have tried several times without any luck.

Thanks again and happy travelling,

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Follow Up By: Flavs - Friday, Dec 06, 2013 at 07:58

Friday, Dec 06, 2013 at 07:58
Hi Peter & Rosalie,

I am not an expert.

I haven't done it for a long time, however go to MY HOME, MY RIG IN there you can upload a photo ( I think it has to be around 250 to 500 kbytes) This can be done in a photo editor by reducing the size to about 20-25% (what I use!).
Update button at the bottom should see your pick as your avtar.

If one of our experts could document this properly (with photos etc) it would be appreciated (Mick ?? is this up you expertise line?).

good luck Peter
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Follow Up By: Flavs - Friday, Dec 06, 2013 at 08:05

Friday, Dec 06, 2013 at 08:05
Hi Peter,
Regards to the search.
Go to the General Forum
At the search section: Click on BOTH to cover all posts.
In the post ID enter 9154 from Les N Sally's post
hit the search button and it should bring up post 9154 which I think is what you are looking for. Good Luck

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Follow Up By: Trakka - Friday, Dec 06, 2013 at 08:46

Friday, Dec 06, 2013 at 08:46
Thanks again Noel,

I have added a second photo into MY HOME, MY RIG and will now try and add it to this post, Some sites auto add a chosen Avatar/pic; any way let's see what happens.

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Reply By: Trakka - Friday, Dec 06, 2013 at 08:35

Friday, Dec 06, 2013 at 08:35
Thanks Noel,

there is an earlier post than that one and I don't think it included a sketch, the article talked about the voltage transformer being able to work with both 12v & 24v systems and went on to basically describe a method for 12v use only (as that is what our c/vans rely on), I'm not sure, but don't think so, that 240v comes into play as I believe the fridge is driven by 12 or 24volt circuits only even when the van is connected to 240v in a c/van park or at home. Hey, I'm no electrician so could be way off target with that.

I searched page by page in both the general and owners section this arvo without luck; thought I had printed the post out but again can't find it in my BOG folder.

Merry Xmas to you & Denise

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Follow Up By: Noosa Fox - Friday, Dec 06, 2013 at 22:26

Friday, Dec 06, 2013 at 22:26
Peter,

The Waeco fridges can be operated either on 12 volt or 24 volts supplies. The light inside the fridge can only be a 12 volt supply so there is a small device inside a short open topped aluminium square tube at the rear of the fridge that reduces 24 volt to 12 volt for the light only.

If you want to run your fridge from a 240 volt supply then you require a transformer that they sell separately and in the past a number of people have had problems with them.
With this transformer in place the 240 volt is reduced to 27 volts and the fridge is designed to run from the highest voltage available, so in both a 12 volt and 24 volt system, it sees the 27 volts as being higher and automatically uses the 27 volt supply that is coming from the 240 volt external supply.

If you don't have the Transformer fitted, then when you connect to 240 volts in a van park it will have no affect on how the fridge runs.

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Reply By: Trakka - Saturday, Dec 07, 2013 at 08:34

Saturday, Dec 07, 2013 at 08:34
Thanks for you advice Brian.

The issue that I am trying to overcome is that the fridge light only comes on (when door opened) if the compressor is running.

Some time ago the little voltage regulator failed and I bought a replacement from Waeco agent and installed it, ever since then the condition mentioned above has been happening. I'm not trying to run the fridge on direct 240v supply. We've lived with it for about a year so it's not a huge deal, just a tidy up matter now we are home for a while.

I think it's pretty impossible to connect the new loom incorrectly but.....it could happen.

Thanks again,
Peter G
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Reply By: JohnS - Saturday, Dec 07, 2013 at 17:29

Saturday, Dec 07, 2013 at 17:29
Peter you said "The issue that I am trying to overcome is that the fridge light only comes on (when door opened) if the compressor is running"
I would suggest the lighting feed is wired incorrectly. It would appear to be fed only when the thermostat has switched the compressor on. Check your wiring is correct on the tag strip, paying particular attention to the regulator wiring.
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Reply By: Trakka - Sunday, Dec 08, 2013 at 10:52

Sunday, Dec 08, 2013 at 10:52
Hi All,

I sorted the problem today when I back tracked to the replacement thermostat and found wrong connections on the terminals, swapped them around and all is now as it is meant to be.

Thanks for the interest and suggestions.

Regards,
Peter G
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Follow Up By: Noosa Fox - Sunday, Dec 08, 2013 at 21:49

Sunday, Dec 08, 2013 at 21:49
Peter,
I would suggest that you fill the tubing where the regulator wires enter the block with silicon so that when you are on rough roads the bouncing wires will not cause a fatigue break at the point of entering the block. By not having a solid fixed point at the end of the wire it is unlikely to fatigue breakage.

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Follow Up By: Trakka - Monday, Dec 09, 2013 at 08:49

Monday, Dec 09, 2013 at 08:49
Thanks Brian,

I have sorted that one and shouldn't be an issue - no problems during our travels across the about 1200Km's of Great Central road then old Ghan line road, Chambers Pillar roads etc etc. I no longer have that aluminium housing and regulator screwed to the metal base of the fridge, it is taped to the main 12V supply wire to fridge and moves around with the bumps and sways of travel - no flexing of those points to the voltage regulator.

Just wondering if an internal fridge fan could be powered from the thermostat wiring inside the fridge; my thoughts are that it probably could and that the fan would then come on when the compressor receives it message to start - however I haven't tried/experimented yet!

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Reply By: Boystoy - Tuesday, Dec 10, 2013 at 23:30

Tuesday, Dec 10, 2013 at 23:30
Hi Peter,

This is now a bit late, have been away & out of internet.
Check Bog Bible 2: Maintenance: Refrigerator: Faulty Frig Light.
This may have helped


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